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I think it should all be free. If a dealer wants a registration, it should be setup so a majority of that goes to PGMFI. As that is our group.

I don't know how the money is distributed, but I know A LOT of work has been put into by the plugin coders, pgmfi developers, and so on..Do they get paid? ::shrug:: ...sort of just how I feel....

We all learn, and grow together. We all put in a lot of man hours. Again, like I said, I don't know how the money is distirbuted, but, I know there are a lot more than just one person in the OBD1 world making this stuff possible, so I hope things are fair for all of the people involved.

he's a dick. 149 is already cheap.

This software is worth the money and MORE! It’s extremely user friendly and has options that pay for them self in the time and FRUSTRATION it saves. I’m a senior computer science and engineering student at Florida Atlantic University and know how much time and effort goes into software development for even a small dedicated computer system such as the one that runs our engines first hand. Hard work deserves compensation. Most of us dump more than this on other look good goodies in our car that don’t do much. I guess some people take shit for granted. I sure would never want to go back to programming an ecu in hex and have to deal with memory addresses knowing that software like this is available reasonably priced to make my life that much easier.

the last post adds perspective to me... a dc header is nearly $300 OR MORE for a realistic 3-8whp. or spend half of that for a MUCH better gain in whp and driveability. kind of a no-brainer from that point of view

are you stupid???????? he's a senior developer and has stated his god given opinion. also I'm with him (Hay man you just hacked the software i made to hack this program?) what's up with that ?? hackers promote evolution in program development.No disrespect to John or Blake (no one is going to forget who father was!!!!) but what about the respect for the guy who took your program and did with it what you could not ???

Down with the underground , FREEWARE RULES!

Just for clarity, WHO was the father?

I'm moving this to Off Topic so I don't have to look at it every time I want to check on information and development and you all can argue to your hearts content.

Im poor and just tyin to get my car running every last penny hurts...and 150 for crome i dont think is a bad thing at all, but at this point in time it hurts cause i cant afford to make my car run right.

$150 is really cheap for software. Anyone that can put that kind of time in and develop software deserves what they are asking. Like any new software you are in for some beta testing. And from what I have seen the guys that are complaining about money and want to go fast for free are the ones that can't ever seem to get there car running right.

It's normal situation about Crome. It's very hard to make people understand that they must to pay for your intellectual work.

People just don't want understand why they must to pay for some kind money for hes job, at least this guy don't become some kind super star with mega world popularity! Then it was cool and respect.
Untill, who cares.
Give me your job for free, who do you think you are. And your sh*t soft have bugs......give it for free anyway!
Same time all other poducts what we buy for every day use become each day with lees quality, and price for them just go up.

That's modern live peoples opinion around the world, sadly, but fact. The same sh*t here too in Eastern Europe. Nobody wants to respect jour job, I mean respect > $$$, because you are not respectable person.

I bought Crome 2 days ago and started using it today and WOW its well worth the money so far!!

i had different problems/bugs in every other free software I tried, crome worked the first time I fired it up and so far everything I tried was bug free. needless to mention that no other alternatives I tried was as complete as Crome

i have yet to try live tuning with Ostrich but so far I am VERY impressed and satisfied with my purchase

I know how much work is involved in developping such a complete and robust software, 149$ is very reasonable

EDIT: important to note that Crome has waaaay more features and is a lot less buggy than Uberdata, NO DOUBT! Crome really is far ahead, and i'd never go back to Uberdata

I would like to see it just under $100 bucks....something like $99 would catch many eyes and help create a stir in the tuning community...

Something that is this good and isn't an arm and a leg....

I love what you guys do here, seems like a good group of pople, but as one person stated, it's a DIY EMS.....DIY in essence is cheap....

Coming up with the extra money is always hard, especially when you are working part time and going to school....it's tough when you want to work hard and play hard too.....

Just my .O2....

I think the price is more than justified!! The only problem I would have is paying it again when major version changes are released.

Maybe John can implement something like an upgrade fee for half price for those coming from an older version of Crome Pro?

well thats not true. considering chrome doesnt approach the level of software offered at http://www.tunercat.com and costs 2x as much and has limited useage blah blahb blah has nowhere near the features etc etc etc and is at best from what ive seen and could be described as a clumsy interface i dont think its anywhere near the $150 mark. and i wouldnt pay $450 for the pro version becuase i already have excelent rom editors that can be setup for FREE !!!!!. check out tunerpro. this is a FREE product that can do everything chrome does without the mess.all it requires is somebody to make a XDF file and then a datastream definition for datalogging and bam youve got real time tunning and datalogging in a FREE package. just requires some effort by the pgmfi community. i have posts over and over and over again about this software and it will do everything your current rom editors due except for handle the Ve table scalars for injector sizing but there is no reason the author of the software couldnt be polietly asked to put those features in it. im sure he would.


http://tunerpro.markmansur.com/