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 Post subject: Knock boards
PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 7:19 pm 
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I have a whole bunch of ECUs with knock boards on my floor currently. Decided to do some comparisons...

The OBD0 JDM PR3 and PW0 both have identical knock boards. These boards are marked "AT" or "MT" for an automatic or manual transmission computer, even though these boards are identical between MT and AT versions. There is a port labeled "monitor" that may be useful.

JDM OBD1 PR3(B16 - XSi), USDM P30 (B16 - Del Sol) and USDM P14 (H23 - Prelude Si) all have the same knock board, to the component. The USDM P72 (B18C1) I have uses the same knock board, but adds R11 and R16 to an otherwise identical board. In addition to what appears to be a secondary input/output port(marked "B"), there are also a couple of other interesting looking ports.

Additionally, both the P30 and P72 have R115, R116 and the knock board while lacking R140, R141. The P14 has R118,119 while lacking R142,R143 in a similar position. All P28s, P06 and P74 that I have which lack the knock sensor have R140,R141 while lacking R115,R116. This leads me to believe that the ECU checks for a bit set to use a knock board, and that the knock board could be removed from a ECU by moving R140,141 to R115,R116.

Unfortunately I don't have a 92-95 car to test in. Any volunteers for fiddling with knock board resistors? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Knock boards
PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:14 pm 
I've got some images of a few of those boards.. I've already posted the mainboard pics
(I hope these are going to get into the resources)
I've used a P14 KS in a JDM P72, with the additional components (R11&16 100R),
the P14 uses "A" the P72 uses "B" - worked fine.
I'll also post a list of p28/30/... OBD1 components in that forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Knock boards
PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:42 pm 
i think those resistor could be for noise filtering.


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 Post subject: Re: Knock boards
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 11:37 am 
Would you be willing to sell any of those knock boards blundar? I could really use one for my p75 conversion... :)

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 Post subject: Re: Knock boards
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 11:49 am 
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nope all mine are spoken for. Why don't you disable the KS in the code? isn't THAT hard...

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 Post subject: Re: Knock boards
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2003 10:58 pm 
Doh!!!
I knew you would say that....

It's easy if you can read DASM code....and I've proven to myself that I can't!!

How about a tip? Pretty please?! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Knock boards
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 7:56 pm 
Found this KS board on a JDM P72, haven't seen one like it before.
Interesting that it has a link connector?


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 Post subject: Re: Knock boards
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 10:17 am 
i saw one of these in a P13 board i had...
it had a 27C256 chip too


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 Post subject: Re: Knock boards
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 10:26 am 
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Andrew, that looks to me like a 66K chip that can be dumped with the 66K dumper. I'd love more insight into the mind of a knock board :)

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